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Uploadtext

I'd like to have Interface Admin to fix Dark Mode problems, the current interface admins didn't respond in a meaningful way for over a month on my two edit requests. My message in Admins noticeboard got ignored. And I want to fix multiple issues, and don't want it so take multiple years to fix them all. The Other Karma (talk) 07:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not possible without RfA. Please link the edit requests here. Krd 07:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext/de – Wikimedia Commons thx, then ill apply there in the future. The Other Karma (talk) 07:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did not make any change because I wanted to find out why this interface message is not translated using translatewiki and using the same layout for every language. This page currently has totally different text for every language what is a problem for such a kind of guideline help page. GPSLeo (talk) 09:11, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GPSLeo: Sadly, that page is older than translatewiki, a legacy from the early days of Commons that needs an upgrade. Matrix has been doing good work on dark mode fixes. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 10:03, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The question is how can we get this to be translated through translatewiki and in the same step using the same layout for all languages. GPSLeo (talk) 10:24, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GPSLeo: An IA TA would probably need to mark the main (English) version for translation, and then each language subpage listed here would probably need to be translated by Admins. Then there are special pages like MediaWiki:Uploadtext/bgfromflickr listed there which probably need treatment, too. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:01, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Having it only translatable by admins would be huge problem. This is why I would like to use translatewiki. Maybe @Raymond can help how we can get this page to be translated on translatewiki. GPSLeo (talk) 11:07, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GPSLeo The message is translatable on translatewiki: see MediaWiki:Uploadtext/en and existing translations. But this message is wiki neutral. It is not possible to translate the special Commons message because ten of thousands of 3rd party wiki are using the same wiki neutral message. A WMF specific message could be added via a patch to Gerrit, so that this local message could be translated. Needs some thoughts and time. Raymond (talk) 11:43, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Probably this file: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages/+/refs/heads/master/i18n/wikimediaoverrides/en.json Raymond (talk) 11:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would it work to just create something like MediaWiki:Uploadtext-commons and replace the MediaWiki:Uploadtext with {{MediaWiki:Uploadtext-commons}}? GPSLeo (talk) 12:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GPSLeo Probably. I suggest to test this on https://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/ Raymond (talk) 13:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I tested it. Transclusion of a translated MediaWiki:Uploadtext-commons does not work and transcluding a Template:Uploadtext that is translated using the translate extension also does not work. I see the following options: 1. Keep the current technically totally independent translations and correct them locally (easiest option). 2. Change MediaWiki config in a way that commons does not use MediaWiki:Uploadtext at all and create a MediaWiki:Uploadtext-commons instead that the goes through translatewiki (best option for long term). Maintain the text on a page like Commons:Uploadtext and translate it there using the translate extension then copy it manually or by bot into the MediaWiki:Uploadtext/ pages. GPSLeo (talk) 15:50, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I created a ticket for this.

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T392671

GPSLeo (talk) 09:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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